1. Venue:

Regal Hotel in Hong Kong.

2. Agenda

Co-Chair:  Kazunori Konishi, Xing Li

Sep. 25

0830-1030  Visit to MEGA-iAdvantage in Chai Wan

1030-1130  Status Report of APAN-JP

      -      TransPAC & Projects                               Kazunori Konishi

      -      APII/Genkai-Hyeohae & Projects              Kitamura Yasuichi

      -      NSF's international project                        Kazunori Konishi

      -      Wireless 3G, 4G projects                          Kitamura Yasuichi

      -      IEEAF updates

      -      others

1130-1230  Status Report of APAN-CN and HARNET

      -      CERNET                                                 Yan Ma

      -      CSTNET                                                 Hualin Qian

      -      NSFCNET                                               Yan Ma

      -      HARNET                                                 Lawrence Law

      -      CNGI                                                      Jianping Wu

1230-1400  Lunch

1400-1600  Network Design

      - eXchange Point

      - Cabling

      - Layer 1  :  SDH/SONET, 2x2.5Gbps mode using the preemptive link 

      - Layer 2  :  GbE

      - Routing

      - Network Monitoring & Measurements

      - Purchase of the equipments

      - Operation

1600-1630 Break

1630-1800 Discussions on Policy of the new JP-CN link

      - Hong Kong eXchange Point (& the operation)

      - Cost of the equipments

      - AUP

      - Peerings

      - IPv4 & IPv6 mode (Dual Stack, or Separate links ??)

      - Charging to the users of the Joint Projects

      - Transit service

      - Clear discrimination from METI's project

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Sep. 26 (Friday)

0900-1030 Joint research projects between China and Japan

      - Engineering/Technology:  IPv6, wireless, etc.

      - Applications: Grid, Distance Education, etc., 

      - How to promote the collaborations

1030-1100  Break

1100-1200  Joint research projects (continued)

1200-1230  Issues & Schedule

Kazunori Konishi, Xing Li, Yan Ma, Jianping Wu, Baoping Yan, Hualin Qian, Ze Luo, Cheng Yan, Jie An, Bei Zhang, Lawrence Law, Nam Ng, Anita Chan, Charles Choy, C Y Kwok, Ronald Leung, Jun Li, Akira Mizushima, Chao Zhou, Haina Tang, Nobuhito Miki, Gant Yim, Kunihiro Fukuda, Akira Kato, Katsuyuki Haseobe, Yasuichi Kitamra

Draft Minutes:

1.       Roll Call

2.       APAN-JP’s status reports of TransPAC & projects, IEEAF, APII/Genkai-Hyeohae & projects, NSF's international projects and wireless 3G&4G projects were given by APAN-JP’s delegates.

3.       APAN-CN’s status reports of CERNET, CSTNET, NSFCNET and CNGI, and the report of HARNET were given by the delegates.

4.       Discussions on network design issues

   - eXchange Point and cabling: Xchange point will be in MEGA-iAdvantage building, CERNET will provide two routers (CERNET router and CNGI router) and two switchers (one for IPv4, and one for IPv6). CSTNET will put a manage router in the same building and connected to the switchers. HARNET will install a fast Ethernet link and connected to the switchers. This eXchange point is part of distributed APAN IPv6 eXchange points.

   - Layer 1 and Layer 2: Gigabit-ethernet framing will be used connecting Tokyo and Hong Kong PoPs, and VLAN could be used. CN and JP will collaborate on the selection of the equipments.

   - Routing: Bilateral peering, APAN-CN will provide stable connectivity port in Beijing to 6Tnet. High speed connectivity to IHEP network and similar projects is desirable. Separate links of IPv4 and IPv6 are preferred by Chinese side, and dual stack approach could be the first implementation step.

   - Network Monitoring & Measurement: follow APAN standard practice.

   - Purchase of the Equipment: refer to the above items, should continue to discuss who should buy the GE/SONET converter.

   - Operation: CERNET will operate the switchers and CNGI router in Hong Kong.

   - See the attached network diagram for technical details.

5.       Discussions on policy issues

   - AUP: Project oriented

   - Charging to users of the joint projects: none

   - Transit Service: Hong Kong transit to 6Tnet, project oriented transit service to USA, Korea and other APAN members.

6.       Joint project proposals

   - APAN-CN compiles a list of joint projects between China and Japan.

   - APAN-JP will submit a joint project proposal to Japanese government.

   - APAN-CN and APAN-JP will continue to work on this issue.

   - APAN-CN and APAN-JP encourage other APAN members to join the projects.

   - English version of the projects, Japanese/Chinese version of the projects, Contact points of the projects will be provided, and will report the joint projects (Proposal: Any presentations at APAN meetings or with “thanks” message for the links will not be made for two consecutive years, the route of the institutions will not be announced over JP-CN link. The reports will be exchanged annually via the Secretariats.)  

7.       Issue list

1).Network Diagram with the bandwidth information between HK_IX and 6TNet via BUPT

2).Relation between 6TNet and CNGI (china-telecom), including the role of BII

3).MII contact point of CNGI project

4).List of CNGI members and their contact points

5).Connection to TANET2

6).GE/SONET box:  ONS15454

7).Routing should be precisely defined.

8).Dynamic traffic management at HK_IX: conventional traffic vs. specific traffic；Dual stack router will be adopted.

9).Experiences of VLAN operation

10).Naming of HK_IX

8.      Next steps

- The participants to APEC-TEL meeting should exchange the views on JP-CN collaborations with government officers.

-    Small management meetings will be planned at Internet2 Indianapolis meeting and APAN/Internet2 meeting in Hawaii.

- Next normal meeting will be discussed at the above management meetings.

- CJK meeting will be planned.